I think I started playing– I think I started playing guitar when I was four years old. If I’m going to do something, I’m going to do it right the first time. And I just– I think that was instilled in me from a little kid. I did that violin. I did guitar, a lot of musical stuff.

And then when I went to college, I picked up the guitar again and started– next thing I know, I was in a band and did that. We traveled quite a bit. It was an awesome time at college doing that. And I’d go back and do it tenfold, but I mean, I’d probably still be substitute teaching and traveling around, playing guitar and singing.

It got to a point where we were playing with bands, national bands. And I was like, there’s a million people doing this that are just unbelievable. So that’s kind of where I stepped back from that and turned my focus to something else, which happened to be the practice of law. I didn’t have– I didn’t–

So you were almost a rock star?

Well, I don’t know about that.

[MUSIC PLAYING]